Comments on: A Quick Note to VMware http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/ The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:08:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Brad http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/comment-page-1/#comment-40862 Brad Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:55:43 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/#comment-40862 Pingback from <a href="http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/brad/archive/2008/08/23/microsoft-licensing-changes-greedy-and-monopolistic.aspx" rel="nofollow">Windows Connected - Microsoft Licensing Changes: Greedy and Monopolistic?</a> Pingback from Windows Connected - Microsoft Licensing Changes: Greedy and Monopolistic?

]]> By: Microsoft Licensing Changes: Greedy and Monopolistic? - Timeout with Brad - Windows Connected http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/comment-page-1/#comment-40861 Microsoft Licensing Changes: Greedy and Monopolistic? - Timeout with Brad - Windows Connected Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:37:59 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/#comment-40861 [...] platforms, such as Citrix XenServer, Novel SUSE Linux, Sun xVM and Virtual Iron.  VMware was late to the dance, but finally signed up as [...] [...] platforms, such as Citrix XenServer, Novel SUSE Linux, Sun xVM and Virtual Iron.  VMware was late to the dance, but finally signed up as [...]

]]> By: slowe http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/comment-page-1/#comment-40809 slowe Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:57:31 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/#comment-40809 Jason, I agree completely. I fully expect Hyper-V pockets to spring up within data centers that are primarily virtualized with other solutions, if for no other reason than due to the fact that Hyper-V ships with the operating system. Combine that fact with issues around licensing (Windows Server OS licenses are NOT included in the recent licensing change regarding the 90-day license transfer) and support and I fully expect Hyper-V to show up all over the place. Jason,

I agree completely. I fully expect Hyper-V pockets to spring up within data centers that are primarily virtualized with other solutions, if for no other reason than due to the fact that Hyper-V ships with the operating system. Combine that fact with issues around licensing (Windows Server OS licenses are NOT included in the recent licensing change regarding the 90-day license transfer) and support and I fully expect Hyper-V to show up all over the place.

]]> By: Jason Willey http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/comment-page-1/#comment-40808 Jason Willey Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:15:30 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/#comment-40808 One thing I found interesting about the annoucement was the slight change in the clause about reproducing problems in the kb associated with the SVVP announcement. They have now changed the old standby of "you may be required to reproduce the problem on physical hardware" to state "hardware or within Hyper-V. I think that will lead to beachheads of Hyper-V within pure VMware or XenServer shops. Pretty smart and subtle by Microsoft. One thing I found interesting about the annoucement was the slight change in the clause about reproducing problems in the kb associated with the SVVP announcement. They have now changed the old standby of “you may be required to reproduce the problem on physical hardware” to state “hardware or within Hyper-V.

I think that will lead to beachheads of Hyper-V within pure VMware or XenServer shops. Pretty smart and subtle by Microsoft.

]]> By: Thinking on Microsoft’s Licensing Changes - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/comment-page-1/#comment-40793 Thinking on Microsoft’s Licensing Changes - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:54:22 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/#comment-40793 [...] has transpired since yesterday, when I urged VMware to join the SVVP and get their software validated for full support by Microsoft. Since that time, it has come to [...] [...] has transpired since yesterday, when I urged VMware to join the SVVP and get their software validated for full support by Microsoft. Since that time, it has come to [...]

]]> By: Rich http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/comment-page-1/#comment-40788 Rich Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:10:58 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/#comment-40788 Just speculating, but maybe VMware's participation in Microsoft's SWP program and general cooperation between the 2 companies will help Microsoft's licensing policies finally anchor to the virtual hardware instead of the physical. The loosened application mobility policy announced yesterday does not include the Windows Server OS! http://vmetc.com/2008/08/19/new-microsoft-application-mobility-brief-does-not-cover-the-windows-operating-system/ Just speculating, but maybe VMware’s participation in Microsoft’s SWP program and general cooperation between the 2 companies will help Microsoft’s licensing policies finally anchor to the virtual hardware instead of the physical. The loosened application mobility policy announced yesterday does not include the Windows Server OS!

http://vmetc.com/2008/08/19/new-microsoft-application-mobility-brief-does-not-cover-the-windows-operating-system/

]]> By: kevinj http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/comment-page-1/#comment-40786 kevinj Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:50:54 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/#comment-40786 http://blogs.technet.com/virtualization/archive/2008/08/19/Thoughts-on-today_2700_s-virtualization-licensing-and-support-news.aspx "For example, it was reported that VMware signed an agreement to participate in the Server Virtualization Validation Program. That much is true. However, it doesn't mean that cooperative support is now in place. First, ESX Server must go through and pass the validation test. Once validated, they'll be added to KB article 944987, where we list "support partners for non-Microsoft hardware virtualization software." Today only Novell is listed, and that's due to the broader technical collaboration agreement in place between the companies." http://blogs.technet.com/virtualization/archive/2008/08/19/Thoughts-on-today_2700_s-virtualization-licensing-and-support-news.aspx

“For example, it was reported that VMware signed an agreement to participate in the Server Virtualization Validation Program. That much is true. However, it doesn’t mean that cooperative support is now in place. First, ESX Server must go through and pass the validation test. Once validated, they’ll be added to KB article 944987, where we list “support partners for non-Microsoft hardware virtualization software.” Today only Novell is listed, and that’s due to the broader technical collaboration agreement in place between the companies.”

]]> By: slowe http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/comment-page-1/#comment-40783 slowe Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:50:39 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/#comment-40783 Gabrie, Thanks for the info. When I was at Tech-Ed in June of this year, Microsoft made NO mention whatsoever--even in passing--of the fact that VMware had been working with them to join the SVVP. I guess they didn't want to steal the thunder from their own virtualization solution... Gabrie,

Thanks for the info. When I was at Tech-Ed in June of this year, Microsoft made NO mention whatsoever–even in passing–of the fact that VMware had been working with them to join the SVVP. I guess they didn’t want to steal the thunder from their own virtualization solution…

]]> By: Gabrie van Zanten http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/comment-page-1/#comment-40776 Gabrie van Zanten Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:23:43 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/#comment-40776 Hi When I was at VMworld 2008 Europe in Cannes this year, VMware already announced that they were talking to Microsoft about joining the program. In another session Microsoft it self said they would welcome VMware to the program. So I wasn't afraid they wouldn't join, just waiting WHEN they would join :-) Would be good news today if they have joined and have been validated. Gabrie Hi
When I was at VMworld 2008 Europe in Cannes this year, VMware already announced that they were talking to Microsoft about joining the program. In another session Microsoft it self said they would welcome VMware to the program.

So I wasn’t afraid they wouldn’t join, just waiting WHEN they would join :-)

Would be good news today if they have joined and have been validated.

Gabrie

]]> By: slowe http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/comment-page-1/#comment-40753 slowe Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:19:06 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/08/19/a-quick-note-to-vmware/#comment-40753 Well, it's kind of a moot point now, isn't it? The official announcement that VMware has entered the SVVP is expected later today. Well, it’s kind of a moot point now, isn’t it? The official announcement that VMware has entered the SVVP is expected later today.

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