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	<title>Comments on: Fibre Channel to Software iSCSI Failover Failures</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/#comment-39247</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn,

Yes, that's certainly possible, but what I was trying to achieve was having another layer of redundancy with what was already provided "out of the box," so to speak. I plan to continue testing to see if there is any way to make this work.

I appreciate your comment. Thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn,</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s certainly possible, but what I was trying to achieve was having another layer of redundancy with what was already provided &#8220;out of the box,&#8221; so to speak. I plan to continue testing to see if there is any way to make this work.</p>
<p>I appreciate your comment. Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Dekhayser</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/#comment-39245</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Dekhayser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott-

Just a theoretical here; what about putting in a FC-to-iSCSI bridge, so that you're not failing over to a new stack?  I think that would simplify this situation, by making the iSCSI path appear to exist in the FC world.  Of course, you'd probably need to build an additional seperate fabric, which means additional FC card (ugh), but it would technically be supported right?  Really expensive, but then again, we're talking FC SANs!

-Glenn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott-</p>
<p>Just a theoretical here; what about putting in a FC-to-iSCSI bridge, so that you&#8217;re not failing over to a new stack?  I think that would simplify this situation, by making the iSCSI path appear to exist in the FC world.  Of course, you&#8217;d probably need to build an additional seperate fabric, which means additional FC card (ugh), but it would technically be supported right?  Really expensive, but then again, we&#8217;re talking FC SANs!</p>
<p>-Glenn</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/#comment-37265</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen this behaviour when a failover of two fiber paths. Even if the error looks to be in the ESX, you can try to change this registry entry (being a w2003):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Disk\TimeOutValue
BTW, what do the event logs in the w2003 are saying?

If you can try with a linux VM you probably will see the root (/) partition going read only (for example Red Hat Linux 4 Update 4 needs  this rpm http://kb.vmware.com/KB/51306 in order to prevent going on Read Only in the event of a fail over)

Hope this helps, congratulations for the blog!
Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen this behaviour when a failover of two fiber paths. Even if the error looks to be in the ESX, you can try to change this registry entry (being a w2003):<br />
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Disk\TimeOutValue<br />
BTW, what do the event logs in the w2003 are saying?</p>
<p>If you can try with a linux VM you probably will see the root (/) partition going read only (for example Red Hat Linux 4 Update 4 needs  this rpm <a href="http://kb.vmware.com/KB/51306" rel="nofollow">http://kb.vmware.com/KB/51306</a> in order to prevent going on Read Only in the event of a fail over)</p>
<p>Hope this helps, congratulations for the blog!<br />
Jon</p>
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		<title>By: william bishop</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/#comment-37258</link>
		<dc:creator>william bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, what do the logs tell you from that timeframe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, what do the logs tell you from that timeframe?</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan,

I thought it worked, too, until I ran the tests with IOmeter. I'm going to keep trying, and I'll let you know if I get any different results.

Nick,

It seemed to me like it should work, too. I was able to manually fail over the paths as long as IOmeter wasn't running.

As for the DiskTimeOut value, I'll try that, but the error really seems to be at the ESX level. The Windows VM just kept on chugging.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan,</p>
<p>I thought it worked, too, until I ran the tests with IOmeter. I&#8217;m going to keep trying, and I&#8217;ll let you know if I get any different results.</p>
<p>Nick,</p>
<p>It seemed to me like it should work, too. I was able to manually fail over the paths as long as IOmeter wasn&#8217;t running.</p>
<p>As for the DiskTimeOut value, I&#8217;ll try that, but the error really seems to be at the ESX level. The Windows VM just kept on chugging.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one of our trainers tested this a while back and he told me that it worked. but if he stressed it with iometer i doubt. will asks it tomorrow if I see him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one of our trainers tested this a while back and he told me that it worked. but if he stressed it with iometer i doubt. will asks it tomorrow if I see him.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Triantos</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/#comment-37251</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Triantos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theoretically, this config should work, although, it's not supported by VMware and by extension the majority, if not all, storage vendors. 

Although, it sounds like a good solution, customers tend to be leary using different stacks. In fact we've supported this type of config for standalone windows environments and some UNIX environments (i.e HP-UX) for sometime now.  

Try setting the Disk TimeOutValue(default=10") in the Windows registry to be higher than the FC HBA driver timeout. It's quite possible the Disk Class driver's timing out the requests prior to the path switch been completed, especially if you're queuing a whole bunch of requests...which you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theoretically, this config should work, although, it&#8217;s not supported by VMware and by extension the majority, if not all, storage vendors. </p>
<p>Although, it sounds like a good solution, customers tend to be leary using different stacks. In fact we&#8217;ve supported this type of config for standalone windows environments and some UNIX environments (i.e HP-UX) for sometime now.  </p>
<p>Try setting the Disk TimeOutValue(default=10&#8243;) in the Windows registry to be higher than the FC HBA driver timeout. It&#8217;s quite possible the Disk Class driver&#8217;s timing out the requests prior to the path switch been completed, especially if you&#8217;re queuing a whole bunch of requests&#8230;which you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Alphageek</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/#comment-37249</link>
		<dc:creator>Alphageek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response at: 
http://www.infrageeks.com/groups/infrageeks/weblog/7c424/Fibre_Channel_to_Software_iSCSI_Failover_Failures.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response at:<br />
<a href="http://www.infrageeks.com/groups/infrageeks/weblog/7c424/Fibre_Channel_to_Software_iSCSI_Failover_Failures.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.infrageeks.com/groups/infrageeks/weblog/7c424/Fibre_Channel_to_Software_iSCSI_Failover_Failures.html</a></p>
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