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	<title>Comments on: Fibre Channel to Software iSCSI Failover Failures</title>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-51110</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NiTRo, thanks for the follow-up. Last time I checked, though---and this might have changed---presenting the same LUN to the same host via two different protocols (which would be required in order to do the failover) isn&#039;t supported by VMware. I&#039;m not saying it doesn&#039;t work, just that last time I checked it isn&#039;t supported.

Nevertheless, thanks for the additional information and for the follow-up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NiTRo, thanks for the follow-up. Last time I checked, though&#8212;and this might have changed&#8212;presenting the same LUN to the same host via two different protocols (which would be required in order to do the failover) isn&#8217;t supported by VMware. I&#8217;m not saying it doesn&#8217;t work, just that last time I checked it isn&#8217;t supported.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, thanks for the additional information and for the follow-up!</p>
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		<title>By: NiTRo</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-51109</link>
		<dc:creator>NiTRo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 00:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, i know it&#039;s an old post but as i was testing FC on Nexenta I gave a shot to try it and it actually works very well. Check out the video on my blog post http://www.hypervisor.fr/?p=3164</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, i know it&#8217;s an old post but as i was testing FC on Nexenta I gave a shot to try it and it actually works very well. Check out the video on my blog post <a href="http://www.hypervisor.fr/?p=3164" rel="nofollow">http://www.hypervisor.fr/?p=3164</a></p>
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		<title>By: Spaceboy</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-43468</link>
		<dc:creator>Spaceboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it works, even under IOMeter stress load.

But one must add the Disk TimeOutValue to Win registry to let them survive the failover delay. I&#039;ve set it to 60 (seconds) and it works. While paths switch, IOs stall, but resume. WOW! (not the Vista kind ;-)

I&#039;m wondering about setting some kind of path cost for iSCSI to force VMWare to fail back to FC if available - 4 GBit &gt;&gt; 1 Gbit. Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it works, even under IOMeter stress load.</p>
<p>But one must add the Disk TimeOutValue to Win registry to let them survive the failover delay. I&#8217;ve set it to 60 (seconds) and it works. While paths switch, IOs stall, but resume. WOW! (not the Vista kind <img src='http://blog.scottlowe.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering about setting some kind of path cost for iSCSI to force VMWare to fail back to FC if available &#8211; 4 GBit &gt;&gt; 1 Gbit. Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-39247</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn,

Yes, that&#039;s certainly possible, but what I was trying to achieve was having another layer of redundancy with what was already provided &quot;out of the box,&quot; so to speak. I plan to continue testing to see if there is any way to make this work.

I appreciate your comment. Thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn,</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s certainly possible, but what I was trying to achieve was having another layer of redundancy with what was already provided &#8220;out of the box,&#8221; so to speak. I plan to continue testing to see if there is any way to make this work.</p>
<p>I appreciate your comment. Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Dekhayser</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-39245</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Dekhayser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott-

Just a theoretical here; what about putting in a FC-to-iSCSI bridge, so that you&#039;re not failing over to a new stack?  I think that would simplify this situation, by making the iSCSI path appear to exist in the FC world.  Of course, you&#039;d probably need to build an additional seperate fabric, which means additional FC card (ugh), but it would technically be supported right?  Really expensive, but then again, we&#039;re talking FC SANs!

-Glenn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott-</p>
<p>Just a theoretical here; what about putting in a FC-to-iSCSI bridge, so that you&#8217;re not failing over to a new stack?  I think that would simplify this situation, by making the iSCSI path appear to exist in the FC world.  Of course, you&#8217;d probably need to build an additional seperate fabric, which means additional FC card (ugh), but it would technically be supported right?  Really expensive, but then again, we&#8217;re talking FC SANs!</p>
<p>-Glenn</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-37265</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen this behaviour when a failover of two fiber paths. Even if the error looks to be in the ESX, you can try to change this registry entry (being a w2003):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Disk\TimeOutValue
BTW, what do the event logs in the w2003 are saying?

If you can try with a linux VM you probably will see the root (/) partition going read only (for example Red Hat Linux 4 Update 4 needs  this rpm http://kb.vmware.com/KB/51306 in order to prevent going on Read Only in the event of a fail over)

Hope this helps, congratulations for the blog!
Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen this behaviour when a failover of two fiber paths. Even if the error looks to be in the ESX, you can try to change this registry entry (being a w2003):<br />
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Disk\TimeOutValue<br />
BTW, what do the event logs in the w2003 are saying?</p>
<p>If you can try with a linux VM you probably will see the root (/) partition going read only (for example Red Hat Linux 4 Update 4 needs  this rpm <a href="http://kb.vmware.com/KB/51306" rel="nofollow">http://kb.vmware.com/KB/51306</a> in order to prevent going on Read Only in the event of a fail over)</p>
<p>Hope this helps, congratulations for the blog!<br />
Jon</p>
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		<title>By: william bishop</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-37258</link>
		<dc:creator>william bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, what do the logs tell you from that timeframe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, what do the logs tell you from that timeframe?</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-37253</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan,

I thought it worked, too, until I ran the tests with IOmeter. I&#039;m going to keep trying, and I&#039;ll let you know if I get any different results.

Nick,

It seemed to me like it should work, too. I was able to manually fail over the paths as long as IOmeter wasn&#039;t running.

As for the DiskTimeOut value, I&#039;ll try that, but the error really seems to be at the ESX level. The Windows VM just kept on chugging.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan,</p>
<p>I thought it worked, too, until I ran the tests with IOmeter. I&#8217;m going to keep trying, and I&#8217;ll let you know if I get any different results.</p>
<p>Nick,</p>
<p>It seemed to me like it should work, too. I was able to manually fail over the paths as long as IOmeter wasn&#8217;t running.</p>
<p>As for the DiskTimeOut value, I&#8217;ll try that, but the error really seems to be at the ESX level. The Windows VM just kept on chugging.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-37252</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one of our trainers tested this a while back and he told me that it worked. but if he stressed it with iometer i doubt. will asks it tomorrow if I see him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one of our trainers tested this a while back and he told me that it worked. but if he stressed it with iometer i doubt. will asks it tomorrow if I see him.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Triantos</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/28/fibre-channel-to-software-iscsi-failover-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-37251</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Triantos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theoretically, this config should work, although, it&#039;s not supported by VMware and by extension the majority, if not all, storage vendors. 

Although, it sounds like a good solution, customers tend to be leary using different stacks. In fact we&#039;ve supported this type of config for standalone windows environments and some UNIX environments (i.e HP-UX) for sometime now.  

Try setting the Disk TimeOutValue(default=10&quot;) in the Windows registry to be higher than the FC HBA driver timeout. It&#039;s quite possible the Disk Class driver&#039;s timing out the requests prior to the path switch been completed, especially if you&#039;re queuing a whole bunch of requests...which you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theoretically, this config should work, although, it&#8217;s not supported by VMware and by extension the majority, if not all, storage vendors. </p>
<p>Although, it sounds like a good solution, customers tend to be leary using different stacks. In fact we&#8217;ve supported this type of config for standalone windows environments and some UNIX environments (i.e HP-UX) for sometime now.  </p>
<p>Try setting the Disk TimeOutValue(default=10&#8243;) in the Windows registry to be higher than the FC HBA driver timeout. It&#8217;s quite possible the Disk Class driver&#8217;s timing out the requests prior to the path switch been completed, especially if you&#8217;re queuing a whole bunch of requests&#8230;which you are.</p>
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