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	<title>Comments on: My Thoughts on the Live Migration-Quick Migration Discussion</title>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/25/my-thoughts-on-the-live-migration-quick-migration-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-40154</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose I&#039;m a couple of months late posting on this.

VMware&#039;s DRS with vmotion is amazing technology.  I&#039;m not a fanboy, either.  We thought about using Hyper-V for dev/qual because.. that is about the only place it makes ANY sense in the enterprise.  With 240 VMs we have to worry about a process kicking off and using up a lot of resources on a server.  When that happens vmotion with DRS migrates things around and load balances very quickly.

Interesting enough, with Microsoft doing the jig here.. that soon as they have this feature, it&#039;ll be the best thing since sliced bread.  With all the bullshit talk, don&#039;t think they&#039;re not working on getting it done too.  Its very necessary, except when you don&#039;t have it and are trying to sell something without it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I&#8217;m a couple of months late posting on this.</p>
<p>VMware&#8217;s DRS with vmotion is amazing technology.  I&#8217;m not a fanboy, either.  We thought about using Hyper-V for dev/qual because.. that is about the only place it makes ANY sense in the enterprise.  With 240 VMs we have to worry about a process kicking off and using up a lot of resources on a server.  When that happens vmotion with DRS migrates things around and load balances very quickly.</p>
<p>Interesting enough, with Microsoft doing the jig here.. that soon as they have this feature, it&#8217;ll be the best thing since sliced bread.  With all the bullshit talk, don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re not working on getting it done too.  Its very necessary, except when you don&#8217;t have it and are trying to sell something without it.</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/25/my-thoughts-on-the-live-migration-quick-migration-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-37290</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 02:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin,

There&#039;s been plenty of mud-slinging from all parties involved, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s been plenty of mud-slinging from all parties involved, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/25/my-thoughts-on-the-live-migration-quick-migration-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-37281</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go VMware fanboys! Ignore all the mud VMware has been slinging at MS now that there&#039;s actual competition in the field...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go VMware fanboys! Ignore all the mud VMware has been slinging at MS now that there&#8217;s actual competition in the field&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hot carl</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/25/my-thoughts-on-the-live-migration-quick-migration-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-37239</link>
		<dc:creator>hot carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just wanted to agree with you and awake (above) regarding vmotion&#039;ing vm&#039;s during the business day.  we do it all the time (.edu w/ ~110k users).  it sure beats having to do maintenance after hours, and the users never even know anything is going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just wanted to agree with you and awake (above) regarding vmotion&#8217;ing vm&#8217;s during the business day.  we do it all the time (.edu w/ ~110k users).  it sure beats having to do maintenance after hours, and the users never even know anything is going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just another marketing campaign. I never expected them to compare their technology to vmware&#039;s in a decent way, but this is by far the worst comparison i&#039;ve seen in years.

As if any decent system engineer would wait till the evening to replace defect hardware. Especially when you have an 8:1 consolidation ratio. I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just another marketing campaign. I never expected them to compare their technology to vmware&#8217;s in a decent way, but this is by far the worst comparison i&#8217;ve seen in years.</p>
<p>As if any decent system engineer would wait till the evening to replace defect hardware. Especially when you have an 8:1 consolidation ratio. I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Awake</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/04/25/my-thoughts-on-the-live-migration-quick-migration-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-37225</link>
		<dc:creator>Awake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical microsoft deception. They do that stuff all the time hoping people are stupid.

If you didnt use Vmotion during the course of a business day you couldnt add hosts to a VMware HA cluster during business hours. Because once the host is added the VM&#039;s would start to muigrate, Live, as it balances resources in the cluster. 
We move VM&#039;s all the time with Vmotion during the course of the day. Users don&#039;t even notice. Even if connected to the VM with RDP.
I take any MS says with a grain of salt. They tend to make it up as they go along and dont care if they are right or wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical microsoft deception. They do that stuff all the time hoping people are stupid.</p>
<p>If you didnt use Vmotion during the course of a business day you couldnt add hosts to a VMware HA cluster during business hours. Because once the host is added the VM&#8217;s would start to muigrate, Live, as it balances resources in the cluster.<br />
We move VM&#8217;s all the time with Vmotion during the course of the day. Users don&#8217;t even notice. Even if connected to the VM with RDP.<br />
I take any MS says with a grain of salt. They tend to make it up as they go along and dont care if they are right or wrong.</p>
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