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	<title>Comments on: Quick Guide to Setting up NetApp Deduplication</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/31/quick-guide-to-setting-up-netapp-deduplication/#comment-42113</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good post, just wanted to update the broken TR3505 link in the middle of the article.

here's the updated link:  http://media.netapp.com/documents/tr-3505.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good post, just wanted to update the broken TR3505 link in the middle of the article.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s the updated link:  <a href="http://media.netapp.com/documents/tr-3505.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://media.netapp.com/documents/tr-3505.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/31/quick-guide-to-setting-up-netapp-deduplication/#comment-41936</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. Thanks for the help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. Thanks for the help.</p>
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		<title>By: Using NetApp Deduplication with Block Storage - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/31/quick-guide-to-setting-up-netapp-deduplication/#comment-40684</link>
		<dc:creator>Using NetApp Deduplication with Block Storage - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on my earlier article on setting up NetApp deduplication, I wanted to follow up with some information on using NetApp deduplication with block storage (LUNs [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on my earlier article on setting up NetApp deduplication, I wanted to follow up with some information on using NetApp deduplication with block storage (LUNs [...]</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/31/quick-guide-to-setting-up-netapp-deduplication/#comment-38795</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

Thanks for the feedback.

I don't know of any resources off the top of my head. I do agree that adding deduplication to an existing SnapMirror relationship will most certainly cause a spike in snap reserve usage, but I'm also wondering about the replication traffic. I guess transferring pointers should be easy and low-impact, but I don't know that for certain.

I'll see if I can get in touch with some friends at NetApp and dig something up for you. Or perhaps a NetApp reader would care to comment here...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know of any resources off the top of my head. I do agree that adding deduplication to an existing SnapMirror relationship will most certainly cause a spike in snap reserve usage, but I&#8217;m also wondering about the replication traffic. I guess transferring pointers should be easy and low-impact, but I don&#8217;t know that for certain.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll see if I can get in touch with some friends at NetApp and dig something up for you. Or perhaps a NetApp reader would care to comment here&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mery</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/31/quick-guide-to-setting-up-netapp-deduplication/#comment-38683</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scott,
First off, I echo several others comments; this is a great resource for all of us NetApp devotees out there.

Can you provide or point me to any resources that detail the affect SIS has on *existing* SnapMirror operations?  I've found plenty about SIS + SM = good, but most sites talk about turning on SM after SIS.

We are in the process of reorganizing several sets of data via SM that I can't afford to stop and restart.  However, because of savings we've seen (up to 71% - and that's not even VMware!), we'd like to turn it on everywhere.

Theory says it should work just fine and begin transferring the deduped blocks with a big hit in the snap reserve until the exising snaps expire, but unfortunately, I don't have the capacity to test that theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scott,<br />
First off, I echo several others comments; this is a great resource for all of us NetApp devotees out there.</p>
<p>Can you provide or point me to any resources that detail the affect SIS has on *existing* SnapMirror operations?  I&#8217;ve found plenty about SIS + SM = good, but most sites talk about turning on SM after SIS.</p>
<p>We are in the process of reorganizing several sets of data via SM that I can&#8217;t afford to stop and restart.  However, because of savings we&#8217;ve seen (up to 71% - and that&#8217;s not even VMware!), we&#8217;d like to turn it on everywhere.</p>
<p>Theory says it should work just fine and begin transferring the deduped blocks with a big hit in the snap reserve until the exising snaps expire, but unfortunately, I don&#8217;t have the capacity to test that theory.</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/31/quick-guide-to-setting-up-netapp-deduplication/#comment-38415</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aharden,

I'm glad you found the article helpful. Thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aharden,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you found the article helpful. Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: aharden</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/31/quick-guide-to-setting-up-netapp-deduplication/#comment-38409</link>
		<dc:creator>aharden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

This post was invaluable in letting me know that A-SIS licensing was now free and how to get it set up.  I had recently upgraded our FAS3020's to OnTAP 7.2.4 and our ESX servers to 3.5.0 so I was ready to rock.  On Friday I created my first A-SIS volumes and started to Storage VMotion VMs into them.  I'm using iSCSI and I'm turning off Space Reservation for the LUNs (and experimenting with (file Space Reservation for the volumes) to reap the storage savings as well as give the A-SIS metadata the room it needs to work.  I have all VMware workload on these, so of course I'm seeing a great return rate (40+% so far).  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>This post was invaluable in letting me know that A-SIS licensing was now free and how to get it set up.  I had recently upgraded our FAS3020&#8217;s to OnTAP 7.2.4 and our ESX servers to 3.5.0 so I was ready to rock.  On Friday I created my first A-SIS volumes and started to Storage VMotion VMs into them.  I&#8217;m using iSCSI and I&#8217;m turning off Space Reservation for the LUNs (and experimenting with (file Space Reservation for the volumes) to reap the storage savings as well as give the A-SIS metadata the room it needs to work.  I have all VMware workload on these, so of course I&#8217;m seeing a great return rate (40+% so far).  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/31/quick-guide-to-setting-up-netapp-deduplication/#comment-37740</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dejan,

Talk to your NetApp SE or sales rep for more information--I have information on this but I can't  discuss it with you because it's under NDA. Your best bet is to take that matter up directly with your NetApp team.

As for the comparison with Data Domain, one key thing to remember is that with NetApp we are deduplicating primary data. It is my understanding that Data Domain deduplicates backup data only, so there are some important differences in what the two companies are trying to achieve with this functionality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dejan,</p>
<p>Talk to your NetApp SE or sales rep for more information&#8211;I have information on this but I can&#8217;t  discuss it with you because it&#8217;s under NDA. Your best bet is to take that matter up directly with your NetApp team.</p>
<p>As for the comparison with Data Domain, one key thing to remember is that with NetApp we are deduplicating primary data. It is my understanding that Data Domain deduplicates backup data only, so there are some important differences in what the two companies are trying to achieve with this functionality.</p>
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		<title>By: Dejan Ilic</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/31/quick-guide-to-setting-up-netapp-deduplication/#comment-37735</link>
		<dc:creator>Dejan Ilic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any clues if Ontap 7.3 will remove/change any of the asis/flexvol limitations?

The limits according to tr-3505 is just plain artificial and silly how low. They would force us into extra managment work just to be able to use ASIS. Being used to Datadomains, the Netapp-numbers seems like "buy bigger that you need" practise from the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any clues if Ontap 7.3 will remove/change any of the asis/flexvol limitations?</p>
<p>The limits according to tr-3505 is just plain artificial and silly how low. They would force us into extra managment work just to be able to use ASIS. Being used to Datadomains, the Netapp-numbers seems like &#8220;buy bigger that you need&#8221; practise from the company.</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/31/quick-guide-to-setting-up-netapp-deduplication/#comment-37090</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christoph,

Yeah, I've noticed posts from your blog showing up in my RSS feeds over the last few days--looks like you've got some good stuff so far, keep up the good work. I'm glad you and your team are finding my site helpful.

Take care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christoph,</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve noticed posts from your blog showing up in my RSS feeds over the last few days&#8211;looks like you&#8217;ve got some good stuff so far, keep up the good work. I&#8217;m glad you and your team are finding my site helpful.</p>
<p>Take care!</p>
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