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	<title>Comments on: VMotion and VLAN Security</title>
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		<title>By: quick</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/05/vmotion-and-vlan-security/comment-page-1/#comment-37486</link>
		<dc:creator>quick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,
Thanks for the reply.  Unfortunately (hah, never had to say that in this context), security is one of the customer&#039;s greatest concerns.  Perhaps eventually the Linux install kernel will figure out how to support VLANs.

Our other alternative is to add uplinks to the blade chassis and use the HP Virtual Connect profiles to assign the NICs to the access port uplinks during provisioning and move them to the trunked uplinks afterwards.  Annoying for operations, but at least the management can all be accomplished remotely.

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,<br />
Thanks for the reply.  Unfortunately (hah, never had to say that in this context), security is one of the customer&#8217;s greatest concerns.  Perhaps eventually the Linux install kernel will figure out how to support VLANs.</p>
<p>Our other alternative is to add uplinks to the blade chassis and use the HP Virtual Connect profiles to assign the NICs to the access port uplinks during provisioning and move them to the trunked uplinks afterwards.  Annoying for operations, but at least the management can all be accomplished remotely.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/05/vmotion-and-vlan-security/comment-page-1/#comment-37458</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick,

So, yes, at first glance it would seem that these recommendations are at adds. However, you&#039;ll note that in the article on the native VLAN I recommended setting the native VLAN to that of the Service Console ONLY if you needed automated builds to work. Otherwise, there is no need to set the native VLAN to that of the Service Console.

In addition, note that there are many instances in which you must bend the &quot;best practices&quot; in order to fit the customer&#039;s business requirements. If the customer absolutely must have automated/scripted ESX builds, then you&#039;ll need to set the native VLAN accordingly, and the customer will just need to be aware of the (potential) security risk. If the customer has security as the highest priority, then they won&#039;t be able to use automated/scripted builds.

As for your situation, the only suggestion I can make is to set the native VLAN during installation, then change it after installation to a configuration that is more conducive to protecting VMotion traffic. Otherwise, these two goals are mutually exclusive.

Hope this helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick,</p>
<p>So, yes, at first glance it would seem that these recommendations are at adds. However, you&#8217;ll note that in the article on the native VLAN I recommended setting the native VLAN to that of the Service Console ONLY if you needed automated builds to work. Otherwise, there is no need to set the native VLAN to that of the Service Console.</p>
<p>In addition, note that there are many instances in which you must bend the &#8220;best practices&#8221; in order to fit the customer&#8217;s business requirements. If the customer absolutely must have automated/scripted ESX builds, then you&#8217;ll need to set the native VLAN accordingly, and the customer will just need to be aware of the (potential) security risk. If the customer has security as the highest priority, then they won&#8217;t be able to use automated/scripted builds.</p>
<p>As for your situation, the only suggestion I can make is to set the native VLAN during installation, then change it after installation to a configuration that is more conducive to protecting VMotion traffic. Otherwise, these two goals are mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!</p>
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		<title>By: quick</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/05/vmotion-and-vlan-security/comment-page-1/#comment-37455</link>
		<dc:creator>quick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
So, I&#039;m a little confused over your advice on whether to set the Native VLAN to that of the Service Console, as described here:

http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/11/13/esx-server-and-the-native-vlan/

Doesn&#039;t that conflict with your advice in this column about setting the Native VLAN to one that is not used anywhere else in the network?

I&#039;m trying to figure out how to deploy ESX via the network without exposing the network to additional vulnerabilities.  Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
So, I&#8217;m a little confused over your advice on whether to set the Native VLAN to that of the Service Console, as described here:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/11/13/esx-server-and-the-native-vlan/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/11/13/esx-server-and-the-native-vlan/</a></p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t that conflict with your advice in this column about setting the Native VLAN to one that is not used anywhere else in the network?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to figure out how to deploy ESX via the network without exposing the network to additional vulnerabilities.  Any guidance would be appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Oberheide</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/05/vmotion-and-vlan-security/comment-page-1/#comment-37033</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Oberheide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Scott!

It highlights how a seemingly simple mechanism like VLANs to provide isolation for your migration traffic is not always so simple, which can result in people not following the best practices for security due to factors like configuration and deployment complexity.  Guides like this will certainly help alleviate that problem.

Regards,
Jon Oberheide</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Scott!</p>
<p>It highlights how a seemingly simple mechanism like VLANs to provide isolation for your migration traffic is not always so simple, which can result in people not following the best practices for security due to factors like configuration and deployment complexity.  Guides like this will certainly help alleviate that problem.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Jon Oberheide</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/05/vmotion-and-vlan-security/comment-page-1/#comment-36048</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

Using the &quot;switchport mode access&quot; command will turn off VLAN trunking altogether. If you don&#039;t need VLAN trunking to the ESX Server, then you certainly could do that, and it would help prevent VLAN hopping.

See also my follow-up posting:

http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/07/configuration-for-protecting-vmotion/

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Using the &#8220;switchport mode access&#8221; command will turn off VLAN trunking altogether. If you don&#8217;t need VLAN trunking to the ESX Server, then you certainly could do that, and it would help prevent VLAN hopping.</p>
<p>See also my follow-up posting:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/07/configuration-for-protecting-vmotion/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/07/configuration-for-protecting-vmotion/</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Cruz</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/05/vmotion-and-vlan-security/comment-page-1/#comment-36047</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Scott.

Couldn&#039;t you also setup an empty native vlan, that way you don&#039;t have to worry about vlan hopping, ever?

like this:

no switchport native vlan
switchport mode acces
switchport access vlan ###

I&#039;m by no means a Cisco IOS expert, but that&#039;s what&#039;s in our build doc for isolating particular switchports in an IBM BladeCenter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Scott.</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t you also setup an empty native vlan, that way you don&#8217;t have to worry about vlan hopping, ever?</p>
<p>like this:</p>
<p>no switchport native vlan<br />
switchport mode acces<br />
switchport access vlan ###</p>
<p>I&#8217;m by no means a Cisco IOS expert, but that&#8217;s what&#8217;s in our build doc for isolating particular switchports in an IBM BladeCenter.</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/05/vmotion-and-vlan-security/comment-page-1/#comment-35916</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew,

Good point, and certainly a great way to isolate VMotion traffic for two-node clusters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew,</p>
<p>Good point, and certainly a great way to isolate VMotion traffic for two-node clusters.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Reed</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/03/05/vmotion-and-vlan-security/comment-page-1/#comment-35905</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[The most surefire way to protect the VMotion network is to place it on its own dedicated, physically separate network, using separate physical NICs plugged into separate physical switches that do not possess any connections to production networks.]

In Vmware two-node clusters I recommend keeping the vmkernel/vmotion network completely off of a physical switch whether on/off of production nets. Rather use cross-over cables between nodes, which will completely isolate the packet flows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[The most surefire way to protect the VMotion network is to place it on its own dedicated, physically separate network, using separate physical NICs plugged into separate physical switches that do not possess any connections to production networks.]</p>
<p>In Vmware two-node clusters I recommend keeping the vmkernel/vmotion network completely off of a physical switch whether on/off of production nets. Rather use cross-over cables between nodes, which will completely isolate the packet flows.</p>
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