Comments on: Nailing Our Colours to the Mast http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/ The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:00:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Steve Chambers http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/comment-page-1/#comment-46046 Steve Chambers Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:57:02 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/#comment-46046 Just found this via @vTrooper / John Blessing < has to be a believe with a name like that, right? :-) I'm an athiest and wouldn't have an issue with someone speaking to an invisible fairy before eating, though I might check what they were drinking afterwards ;-) Only kidding - each to their own, it makes life all the more interesting, and who knows, Pascal might have been right to have his wager.... ;-) Cheers Steve Just found this via @vTrooper / John Blessing < has to be a believe with a name like that, right? :-)

I’m an athiest and wouldn’t have an issue with someone speaking to an invisible fairy before eating, though I might check what they were drinking afterwards ;-)

Only kidding - each to their own, it makes life all the more interesting, and who knows, Pascal might have been right to have his wager…. ;-)

Cheers
Steve

]]> By: A plug for Scott Lowe | Virtual Insanity http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/comment-page-1/#comment-40830 A plug for Scott Lowe | Virtual Insanity Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:08:19 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/#comment-40830 [...] Nailing Our Colours to the Mast [...] [...] Nailing Our Colours to the Mast [...]

]]> By: mark reiber http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/comment-page-1/#comment-38182 mark reiber Sun, 18 May 2008 03:12:52 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/#comment-38182 i am a pastor and was reading about the term [nailing your colours to your mast ] and found your weblog and what you had to say was right on the money read this from barclay comentaryHilaire Belloc, one of the most famous of English Roman Catholics. After the interview Nichols wrote: "I was sorry for Mr. Belloc because I felt that he had nailed at least some of his colours to the wrong mast; but I was still sorrier for myself and for my own generation, because I knew that we had no colours of any kind to nail to any mast— i am a pastor and was reading about the term [nailing your colours to your mast ] and found your weblog and what you had to say was right on the money read this from barclay comentaryHilaire Belloc, one of the most famous of English Roman Catholics. After the interview Nichols wrote: “I was sorry for Mr. Belloc because I felt that he had nailed at least some of his colours to the wrong mast; but I was still sorrier for myself and for my own generation, because I knew that we had no colours of any kind to nail to any mast—

]]> By: jeff lowe http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/comment-page-1/#comment-36214 jeff lowe Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:11:23 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/#comment-36214 Good post brother Lowe! We are here to be walking revelations of a living Savior. We are the only Jesus people may see, but the Spirit is more than willing to lead us into divine opportunties to win souls! Good post brother Lowe!
We are here to be walking revelations of a living Savior. We are the only Jesus people may see, but the Spirit is more than willing to lead us into divine opportunties to win souls!

]]> By: David Lee http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/comment-page-1/#comment-35868 David Lee Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:51:09 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/#comment-35868 I really hope this does not offend anyone, but it very well may. Some things have to be believed before they can be seen. 1 Corinthians 2:13-14 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. I really hope this does not offend anyone, but it very well may. Some things have to be believed before they can be seen.

1 Corinthians 2:13-14
This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

]]> By: Eric http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/comment-page-1/#comment-35826 Eric Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:08:49 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/#comment-35826 Scott, I picked up on that because it's interesting that Christians are the overwhelming majority in this country, yet feel persecuted when folks who are in minority religions don't want Christianity shoved down our throats. Jews have been persecuted throughout history by everyone, including Christians, yet the Jews in this country don't feel the same level of persecution that many Christians seem to feel. I've spoken with a lot of my Christian friends, and none of them have a problem with our town using tax funds for a Christmas celebration, tree, etc.... All of my non-Christian friends feel it's a misuse of tax funds. One of my sales reps is a "true believer" - he believes the earth is 6,000 years old and that Jonah really was swallowed up by a fish. I just can't square that with Government... Scott,

I picked up on that because it’s interesting that Christians are the overwhelming majority in this country, yet feel persecuted when folks who are in minority religions don’t want Christianity shoved down our throats.

Jews have been persecuted throughout history by everyone, including Christians, yet the Jews in this country don’t feel the same level of persecution that many Christians seem to feel.

I’ve spoken with a lot of my Christian friends, and none of them have a problem with our town using tax funds for a Christmas celebration, tree, etc…. All of my non-Christian friends feel it’s a misuse of tax funds.

One of my sales reps is a “true believer” - he believes the earth is 6,000 years old and that Jonah really was swallowed up by a fish.

I just can’t square that with Government…

]]> By: William Bishop http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/comment-page-1/#comment-35819 William Bishop Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:06:07 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/#comment-35819 It's scott's blog, which contains personal, and technological sections. Personally, I like that there's a blend of things, makes it much more interesting. Scott and I only differ on this one thing, and it's such a small thing....but I read his blog religiously. The personal touch he puts in his site, makes it distinctive. Maybe this is an area that doesn't have to be all work? It’s scott’s blog, which contains personal, and technological sections.

Personally, I like that there’s a blend of things, makes it much more interesting. Scott and I only differ on this one thing, and it’s such a small thing….but I read his blog religiously. The personal touch he puts in his site, makes it distinctive.

Maybe this is an area that doesn’t have to be all work?

]]> By: IC http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/comment-page-1/#comment-35816 IC Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:16:09 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/#comment-35816 Can we please get back to technology? :) The fact that this has transgressed into a religious debate only goes to prove Eric and Williams point, that Religion detracts from the issues at hand. Can we please get back to technology? :)
The fact that this has transgressed into a religious debate only goes to prove Eric and Williams point, that Religion detracts from the issues at hand.

]]> By: William Bishop http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/comment-page-1/#comment-35814 William Bishop Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:42:26 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/#comment-35814 It IS a christian country. But most people check their religion at the door, it is, and should be to everyone a personal thing. By all means pray at your meals, I have many friends, and even the occasional vendor that prays before a lunch or dinner. No one really pays attention, and obviously they are suffering no ill effects....so my question is why don't you just do your meal prayer and find out? It's not that we see your stance as christian american, it's more that in my case I don't understand your dilemna. It's much more accepted to pray over your meal, than to do much of anything else. So do it. That said, my rant mainly focuses on perception. In that christians suffer an unusual dichotomy, at the same time that they suffer from some sense of persectution(that doesn't even exist), they have an almost obnoxious sense of entitlement--some feeling that everyone should be considerate of their desires(even if it's to put a 100 foot cross on the lawn of city hall), no matter what. That's my gripe with it. People can believe in unicorns all they want, but their rights and entitlements end where my rights begin...which they never seem to figure out. It's a nation of separation from church and state. It's that way because church and state combined is a dangerous thing, and as we've seen from our peculiar slant on religion(young earth creationists) it's taking our education and science with it back into the dark ages. It IS a christian country. But most people check their religion at the door, it is, and should be to everyone a personal thing.

By all means pray at your meals, I have many friends, and even the occasional vendor that prays before a lunch or dinner. No one really pays attention, and obviously they are suffering no ill effects….so my question is why don’t you just do your meal prayer and find out?

It’s not that we see your stance as christian american, it’s more that in my case I don’t understand your dilemna. It’s much more accepted to pray over your meal, than to do much of anything else. So do it.

That said, my rant mainly focuses on perception. In that christians suffer an unusual dichotomy, at the same time that they suffer from some sense of persectution(that doesn’t even exist), they have an almost obnoxious sense of entitlement–some feeling that everyone should be considerate of their desires(even if it’s to put a 100 foot cross on the lawn of city hall), no matter what.

That’s my gripe with it. People can believe in unicorns all they want, but their rights and entitlements end where my rights begin…which they never seem to figure out. It’s a nation of separation from church and state. It’s that way because church and state combined is a dangerous thing, and as we’ve seen from our peculiar slant on religion(young earth creationists) it’s taking our education and science with it back into the dark ages.

]]> By: slowe http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/comment-page-1/#comment-35812 slowe Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:47:09 +0000 http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/27/nailing-our-colours-to-the-mast/#comment-35812 It's odd to me, William and Eric, that you guys picked up the "it's a Christian country" kind of theme from my post; I had no thought of that whatsoever while writing it. Quite the opposite, actually; I was thinking about how many people don't show any sign of religion whatsoever. I suppose it's a matter of perspective, as are so many things in life. Eric, you are correct that in many ways free speech is a slippery slope; we must apply common sense. I'm not advocating the all too familiar "You're-going-to-Hell-if-you-don't-live-the-way-I-live" type of mentality, not by a long shot. But I am advocating that those of us who do profess the name of Christ should live that way consistently and openly. Equally importantly, we should recognize that others want to live their lives in their own way, consistently and openly, and everyone is entitled to that choice. Thanks to all who have continued to respond. It’s odd to me, William and Eric, that you guys picked up the “it’s a Christian country” kind of theme from my post; I had no thought of that whatsoever while writing it. Quite the opposite, actually; I was thinking about how many people don’t show any sign of religion whatsoever. I suppose it’s a matter of perspective, as are so many things in life.

Eric, you are correct that in many ways free speech is a slippery slope; we must apply common sense. I’m not advocating the all too familiar “You’re-going-to-Hell-if-you-don’t-live-the-way-I-live” type of mentality, not by a long shot. But I am advocating that those of us who do profess the name of Christ should live that way consistently and openly. Equally importantly, we should recognize that others want to live their lives in their own way, consistently and openly, and everyone is entitled to that choice.

Thanks to all who have continued to respond.

]]>