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	<title>Comments on: How Do Non-Geeks Fix Problems?</title>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/06/08/how-do-non-geeks-fix-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-44025</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are building a firewall box you should at least check out Ideco Gateway - http://www.idecogateway.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are building a firewall box you should at least check out Ideco Gateway &#8211; <a href="http://www.idecogateway.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.idecogateway.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/06/08/how-do-non-geeks-fix-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-33807</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

THought I would recommend a wonderful little linux distro that does everything your needing on one machine - Astaro (.com, ftp.astaro.com) you can use it at home for up to 10 PC&#039;s for free.

I could take a deep breath and tell you everything it does, but as a fellow engineer, I&#039;ll just say that you&#039;d be doing yourself a dis-service if you didn&#039;t try it out for a solution to your home problems (believe me, I have 4 boys!). The ISO I believe is about 400mb and there&#039;s a 700mb virtual appliance that you can use clustered as well (enterprise applications).

Cheers and thanks for all the good posts.

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>THought I would recommend a wonderful little linux distro that does everything your needing on one machine &#8211; Astaro (.com, <a href="http://ftp.astaro.com" rel="nofollow">http://ftp.astaro.com</a>) you can use it at home for up to 10 PC&#8217;s for free.</p>
<p>I could take a deep breath and tell you everything it does, but as a fellow engineer, I&#8217;ll just say that you&#8217;d be doing yourself a dis-service if you didn&#8217;t try it out for a solution to your home problems (believe me, I have 4 boys!). The ISO I believe is about 400mb and there&#8217;s a 700mb virtual appliance that you can use clustered as well (enterprise applications).</p>
<p>Cheers and thanks for all the good posts.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: pkillur</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/06/08/how-do-non-geeks-fix-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-32467</link>
		<dc:creator>pkillur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wholeheartedly agree.  It&#039;s maddeningly annoying trying to debug stuff like this.  

And for the record - if someone was semi technically literate, and say flashed their linksys router with an aftermarket BIOS they probably would have been hosed - unless they were exceptionally persistent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree.  It&#8217;s maddeningly annoying trying to debug stuff like this.  </p>
<p>And for the record &#8211; if someone was semi technically literate, and say flashed their linksys router with an aftermarket BIOS they probably would have been hosed &#8211; unless they were exceptionally persistent.</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/06/08/how-do-non-geeks-fix-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-32362</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerch,

Actually, I&#039;m not really upset with my daughter, and I am a bit proud of her that she figured out how to bypass the proxy.  For her, honestly, it&#039;s less about accessing inappropriate content and more about limiting the hours during which she can access the Internet.  (That&#039;s the problem with laptops and wireless access.)  Besides which, as you&#039;ve so rightly pointed out, there are other factors to consider, and all of those factors tell me that--aside from spending too much time online--I don&#039;t really have too much to worry about from my Honor Roll daughter.

No worries about my wife, either--she&#039;s fully supportive of the changes!  I&#039;m a lucky man, I guess.

Thanks for the response!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerch,</p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;m not really upset with my daughter, and I am a bit proud of her that she figured out how to bypass the proxy.  For her, honestly, it&#8217;s less about accessing inappropriate content and more about limiting the hours during which she can access the Internet.  (That&#8217;s the problem with laptops and wireless access.)  Besides which, as you&#8217;ve so rightly pointed out, there are other factors to consider, and all of those factors tell me that&#8211;aside from spending too much time online&#8211;I don&#8217;t really have too much to worry about from my Honor Roll daughter.</p>
<p>No worries about my wife, either&#8211;she&#8217;s fully supportive of the changes!  I&#8217;m a lucky man, I guess.</p>
<p>Thanks for the response!</p>
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		<title>By: Kerch</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/06/08/how-do-non-geeks-fix-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-32360</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you should be proud that your daughter might be able to figure this all out.

And if she can, then the very LEAST of your worries is that she&#039;s viewing inappropriate content.  When my own geek son started using the internet a hundred years ago, my friends were worried he&#039;d look at &quot;inapproriate pictures of women.&quot;  First, I told my son there are no real women who will do that for you.  And second, I tell my friends, I&#039;m much more concerned he&#039;s learning to make bombs!  Fifteen years later.. all is well in my house!  No hooker wives, no hooker&#039;s children and no bombs!

You ask:
&lt;blockquote&gt; After all this progress in computer hardware, applications, and networking, and we are still unable to accurately diagnose problems without going to multiple sources?  &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I suggest it&#039;s the same problem with our kids... We want to believe them... I think we SHOULD believe them!  But you can&#039;t ignore the value of input from other sources in the raising of them: report cards, other kid&#039;s parents, other kids, other sibs. And the list goes on.

Best of luck to ya -- with the network and with the kids and wait til your wife starts complaining about the changes you&#039;ve made before you head out the door! -- You think the kids are bad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should be proud that your daughter might be able to figure this all out.</p>
<p>And if she can, then the very LEAST of your worries is that she&#8217;s viewing inappropriate content.  When my own geek son started using the internet a hundred years ago, my friends were worried he&#8217;d look at &#8220;inapproriate pictures of women.&#8221;  First, I told my son there are no real women who will do that for you.  And second, I tell my friends, I&#8217;m much more concerned he&#8217;s learning to make bombs!  Fifteen years later.. all is well in my house!  No hooker wives, no hooker&#8217;s children and no bombs!</p>
<p>You ask:</p>
<blockquote><p> After all this progress in computer hardware, applications, and networking, and we are still unable to accurately diagnose problems without going to multiple sources?  </p></blockquote>
<p>I suggest it&#8217;s the same problem with our kids&#8230; We want to believe them&#8230; I think we SHOULD believe them!  But you can&#8217;t ignore the value of input from other sources in the raising of them: report cards, other kid&#8217;s parents, other kids, other sibs. And the list goes on.</p>
<p>Best of luck to ya &#8212; with the network and with the kids and wait til your wife starts complaining about the changes you&#8217;ve made before you head out the door! &#8212; You think the kids are bad!</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/06/08/how-do-non-geeks-fix-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-32354</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 03:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right about calling the neighbor&#039;s kid, that&#039;s for sure!  I&#039;ll agree that my network is more complicated than most, but what happens when ordinary people have problems with their simple networks?  It&#039;s no wonder that people get so frustrated with PCs and the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right about calling the neighbor&#8217;s kid, that&#8217;s for sure!  I&#8217;ll agree that my network is more complicated than most, but what happens when ordinary people have problems with their simple networks?  It&#8217;s no wonder that people get so frustrated with PCs and the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: David Magda</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/06/08/how-do-non-geeks-fix-problems/comment-page-1/#comment-32346</link>
		<dc:creator>David Magda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An ordinary person would be using either a Linksys or D-link (or connecting directly to their DSL/cable modem), and if things weren&#039;t working would have called their ISP (or the neighbour&#039;s kid).

You added extra complexity to the network because you are technically inclined, and were able t debug it because you are so inclined. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An ordinary person would be using either a Linksys or D-link (or connecting directly to their DSL/cable modem), and if things weren&#8217;t working would have called their ISP (or the neighbour&#8217;s kid).</p>
<p>You added extra complexity to the network because you are technically inclined, and were able t debug it because you are so inclined. <img src='http://blog.scottlowe.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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