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	<title>Comments on: LUN Clones vs. FlexClones</title>
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		<title>By: Mouli</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/05/21/lun-clones-vs-flexclones/comment-page-1/#comment-43333</link>
		<dc:creator>Mouli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we have 1:1 relationship between the lun : flexvol , it means i have only a single file in the filesystem. 

How do we create a lun clone in this scenarion. Ideally, the filesystem doesnot have any space for the lun clone ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we have 1:1 relationship between the lun : flexvol , it means i have only a single file in the filesystem. </p>
<p>How do we create a lun clone in this scenarion. Ideally, the filesystem doesnot have any space for the lun clone ??</p>
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		<title>By: Jugoslav Djajic</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/05/21/lun-clones-vs-flexclones/comment-page-1/#comment-43282</link>
		<dc:creator>Jugoslav Djajic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vijay, you are right, there is a 500 FlexVol limit, but unfortunately it's not per aggregate, it's per filer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vijay, you are right, there is a 500 FlexVol limit, but unfortunately it&#8217;s not per aggregate, it&#8217;s per filer.</p>
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		<title>By: Vijay Raghavan</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/05/21/lun-clones-vs-flexclones/comment-page-1/#comment-43266</link>
		<dc:creator>Vijay Raghavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the question of one lun per flexvol, isn't there a smallish limit on the total number of flexvols that an aggregate supports?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the question of one lun per flexvol, isn&#8217;t there a smallish limit on the total number of flexvols that an aggregate supports?</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/05/21/lun-clones-vs-flexclones/comment-page-1/#comment-35688</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BA,

I'd recommend you take a really close look at NetApp's SnapManager products. SnapManager for SQL and SnapManager for Oracle have hooks into the DB engines to ensure that the Snapshots are consistent and recoverable, and they provide automation tools to make the whole process easy.

Otherwise, the process is certainly doable, but requires downtime from the database (you need to stop the database in order to ensure a consistent Snapshot) and some manual scripts to create clones for development and testing.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BA,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend you take a really close look at NetApp&#8217;s SnapManager products. SnapManager for SQL and SnapManager for Oracle have hooks into the DB engines to ensure that the Snapshots are consistent and recoverable, and they provide automation tools to make the whole process easy.</p>
<p>Otherwise, the process is certainly doable, but requires downtime from the database (you need to stop the database in order to ensure a consistent Snapshot) and some manual scripts to create clones for development and testing.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: BA</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/05/21/lun-clones-vs-flexclones/comment-page-1/#comment-35655</link>
		<dc:creator>BA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm very new to ONTAP and lun/volume creation, so I am hoping to get some help :)

I want to take a nightly snapshot of production database lun and present it to a development server for the devs to hammer on.  What would be your recommendation for doing so, as automatically as possible of course :)  Can we hammer thru this together?  thx!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very new to ONTAP and lun/volume creation, so I am hoping to get some help <img src='http://blog.scottlowe.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I want to take a nightly snapshot of production database lun and present it to a development server for the devs to hammer on.  What would be your recommendation for doing so, as automatically as possible of course <img src='http://blog.scottlowe.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Can we hammer thru this together?  thx!!</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/05/21/lun-clones-vs-flexclones/comment-page-1/#comment-35158</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy,

Yes, you're correct in that using a 1:1 relationship between LUNs and volumes does allow for independent Snapshots of each LUN, since Snapshots run on a volume level.

The ability to do a LUN clone for no additional charge, though, does make LUN clones useful in some scenarios.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy,</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re correct in that using a 1:1 relationship between LUNs and volumes does allow for independent Snapshots of each LUN, since Snapshots run on a volume level.</p>
<p>The ability to do a LUN clone for no additional charge, though, does make LUN clones useful in some scenarios.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2007/05/21/lun-clones-vs-flexclones/comment-page-1/#comment-35089</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's one of the reasons that the best practice is to have a 1:1 lun:vol relationship.  Creating multiple flexible volumes doesn't take any more space apart from the snapshot reserve.  Snapshot per volume, lun per volume = snapshot per lun.

At least, that's my understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s one of the reasons that the best practice is to have a 1:1 lun:vol relationship.  Creating multiple flexible volumes doesn&#8217;t take any more space apart from the snapshot reserve.  Snapshot per volume, lun per volume = snapshot per lun.</p>
<p>At least, that&#8217;s my understanding.</p>
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