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	<title>Comments on: ESX Server, NIC Teaming, and VLAN Trunking</title>
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		<title>By: VMware ESX, NIC Teaming, and VLAN Trunking with HP ProCurve - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/12/04/esx-server-nic-teaming-and-vlan-trunking/#comment-41197</link>
		<dc:creator>VMware ESX, NIC Teaming, and VLAN Trunking with HP ProCurve - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an earlier article about VMware ESX, NIC teaming, and VLAN trunking, I described what the configuration should look like if one were using these features with Cisco [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an earlier article about VMware ESX, NIC teaming, and VLAN trunking, I described what the configuration should look like if one were using these features with Cisco [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ESX Server and the Native VLAN - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/12/04/esx-server-nic-teaming-and-vlan-trunking/#comment-41193</link>
		<dc:creator>ESX Server and the Native VLAN - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was December 2006 when I first published this article on using NIC teams and VLANs with ESX Server. As you can see in the &#8220;Top Posts&#8221; section in the sidebar, that article has since [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was December 2006 when I first published this article on using NIC teams and VLANs with ESX Server. As you can see in the &#8220;Top Posts&#8221; section in the sidebar, that article has since [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New VLAN Article at SearchVMware.com - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/12/04/esx-server-nic-teaming-and-vlan-trunking/#comment-40351</link>
		<dc:creator>New VLAN Article at SearchVMware.com - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this latest VLAN article, an earlier VLAN article published on SearchVMware.com, a VLAN article published here on my site, and the latest discussion of the use of the native VLAN, I&#8217;m trying to make sure [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this latest VLAN article, an earlier VLAN article published on SearchVMware.com, a VLAN article published here on my site, and the latest discussion of the use of the native VLAN, I&#8217;m trying to make sure [...]</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/12/04/esx-server-nic-teaming-and-vlan-trunking/#comment-40333</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CoolRos,

1. I wouldn't be concerned about it. vSwitches can't be linked to each other except by a VM.

2. No. There is no STP support on a vSwitch. I presume this is because you can't link vSwitches together, so there's no need to worry about a bridging loop.

I'm not sure what "chaos" may result in a Cisco world; I have many customers who are doing just exactly what you describe without any issues whatsoever. You won't be able to do link aggregation/EtherChannel unless your switch supports cross-switch EtherChannel, but otherwise it should work just fine.

Thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CoolRos,</p>
<p>1. I wouldn&#8217;t be concerned about it. vSwitches can&#8217;t be linked to each other except by a VM.</p>
<p>2. No. There is no STP support on a vSwitch. I presume this is because you can&#8217;t link vSwitches together, so there&#8217;s no need to worry about a bridging loop.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what &#8220;chaos&#8221; may result in a Cisco world; I have many customers who are doing just exactly what you describe without any issues whatsoever. You won&#8217;t be able to do link aggregation/EtherChannel unless your switch supports cross-switch EtherChannel, but otherwise it should work just fine.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: CoolRos</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/12/04/esx-server-nic-teaming-and-vlan-trunking/#comment-40328</link>
		<dc:creator>CoolRos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am attempting to connect an ESX server to redundant switches.

My thought was to have a Vswitch with two NICs (or more), each connected to redundant Cisco switches.  The Cisco switches have an interconnect as well, creating a physical loop.

My concern is that I might create a bridging loop between the three switches, since the Vswitch does not support Spanning Tree Protocol.

From what I can find, VMWare says that STP isn't necessary only because Vswitches don't bridge to each other.  They don't seem to address the chaos that can ensue in a Cisco world.

1)  Are my concerns substantiated?

2)  If so, is there a way to enable STP on a Vswitch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am attempting to connect an ESX server to redundant switches.</p>
<p>My thought was to have a Vswitch with two NICs (or more), each connected to redundant Cisco switches.  The Cisco switches have an interconnect as well, creating a physical loop.</p>
<p>My concern is that I might create a bridging loop between the three switches, since the Vswitch does not support Spanning Tree Protocol.</p>
<p>From what I can find, VMWare says that STP isn&#8217;t necessary only because Vswitches don&#8217;t bridge to each other.  They don&#8217;t seem to address the chaos that can ensue in a Cisco world.</p>
<p>1)  Are my concerns substantiated?</p>
<p>2)  If so, is there a way to enable STP on a Vswitch?</p>
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		<title>By: Xsigo I/O Director Tips and Tricks - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/12/04/esx-server-nic-teaming-and-vlan-trunking/#comment-40322</link>
		<dc:creator>Xsigo I/O Director Tips and Tricks - blog.scottlowe.org - The weblog of an IT pro specializing in virtualization, storage, and servers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also want to consider whether you want the VP780 to tag native VLANs. I&#8217;ll refer you back to this blog entry and this blog entry for more information on VLANs and the native VLAN with ESX. Alternatively, you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also want to consider whether you want the VP780 to tag native VLANs. I&#8217;ll refer you back to this blog entry and this blog entry for more information on VLANs and the native VLAN with ESX. Alternatively, you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/12/04/esx-server-nic-teaming-and-vlan-trunking/#comment-40063</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dominick,

I believe that if you are going to use 802.3ad on the physical switches, you'll be required to use "Route based on ip hash" on the vSwitches in order for connectivity to work. Keep in mind that this will only help improve the distribution of traffic across the links, not necessarily improve the throughput of any single point-to-point connection.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dominick,</p>
<p>I believe that if you are going to use 802.3ad on the physical switches, you&#8217;ll be required to use &#8220;Route based on ip hash&#8221; on the vSwitches in order for connectivity to work. Keep in mind that this will only help improve the distribution of traffic across the links, not necessarily improve the throughput of any single point-to-point connection.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Dominick</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/12/04/esx-server-nic-teaming-and-vlan-trunking/#comment-40062</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Scott - I'm using a single physical switch (4 NIC's on the ESX box talking to a single 6509 - jumping blades for redundancy).  I took a look at the link on #29 and that along with your comment about ESX not doing a great job utilizing the uplink's makes me believe I would be best served using 802.3ad aggregation at switch (alternating port pairs) and leaving the ESX load balancing setting to 'route based on the originating virtual port ID'.  As for the iSCSI SAN we are stuck with the single VIP.

I have the luxury of time, so I can actually test a few configurations to see which works best before placing the system into production in Sept.

Looking forward to your test results - and thanks again for the response!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Scott - I&#8217;m using a single physical switch (4 NIC&#8217;s on the ESX box talking to a single 6509 - jumping blades for redundancy).  I took a look at the link on #29 and that along with your comment about ESX not doing a great job utilizing the uplink&#8217;s makes me believe I would be best served using 802.3ad aggregation at switch (alternating port pairs) and leaving the ESX load balancing setting to &#8216;route based on the originating virtual port ID&#8217;.  As for the iSCSI SAN we are stuck with the single VIP.</p>
<p>I have the luxury of time, so I can actually test a few configurations to see which works best before placing the system into production in Sept.</p>
<p>Looking forward to your test results - and thanks again for the response!</p>
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		<title>By: slowe</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/12/04/esx-server-nic-teaming-and-vlan-trunking/#comment-40058</link>
		<dc:creator>slowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dominick,

Good question! Your timing is impeccable; I'm just wrapping up some network configuration testing in my lab and will be publishing results within the next few days.

In any case, here we go...you won't be able to use "Route based on IP hash" on your vSwitch because that requires a single physical switch (refer to the link in comment #29). So, for physical switch redundancy, we either have to a) go with two vSwitches, each with two uplinks; or b) use standard NIC bonding in ESX without any physical switch configuration. Option A has problems because you can't really replicate the same port group configuration on both vSwitches; Option B has problems because depending upon the type of traffic, ESX doesn't do a very good job of utilizing all the uplinks on the vSwitch. This leaves you in a difficult position.

However, unless you have multiple iSCSI targets, Option B will provide you the best balance of performance and redundancy, so that's the route I'd take.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dominick,</p>
<p>Good question! Your timing is impeccable; I&#8217;m just wrapping up some network configuration testing in my lab and will be publishing results within the next few days.</p>
<p>In any case, here we go&#8230;you won&#8217;t be able to use &#8220;Route based on IP hash&#8221; on your vSwitch because that requires a single physical switch (refer to the link in comment #29). So, for physical switch redundancy, we either have to a) go with two vSwitches, each with two uplinks; or b) use standard NIC bonding in ESX without any physical switch configuration. Option A has problems because you can&#8217;t really replicate the same port group configuration on both vSwitches; Option B has problems because depending upon the type of traffic, ESX doesn&#8217;t do a very good job of utilizing all the uplinks on the vSwitch. This leaves you in a difficult position.</p>
<p>However, unless you have multiple iSCSI targets, Option B will provide you the best balance of performance and redundancy, so that&#8217;s the route I&#8217;d take.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Dominick</title>
		<link>http://blog.scottlowe.org/2006/12/04/esx-server-nic-teaming-and-vlan-trunking/#comment-40051</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott - thanks for the blog.  Basic question:  I'm using ESX 3.5 with a pair of dual-Gig NICs connected to a 6509 and an iSCSI SAN.  I was thinking of a single vSwitch, physical connections teamed &#38; trunked on alternate NIC's (for redundancy on the chipsets) in active/active mode, with port groups for VM's, iSCSI/vmKernal and Service Consoles - each using 2 physical NICs (one channel).  Does this make sense for maximizing performance and redundancy?  Is there a better method?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott - thanks for the blog.  Basic question:  I&#8217;m using ESX 3.5 with a pair of dual-Gig NICs connected to a 6509 and an iSCSI SAN.  I was thinking of a single vSwitch, physical connections teamed &amp; trunked on alternate NIC&#8217;s (for redundancy on the chipsets) in active/active mode, with port groups for VM&#8217;s, iSCSI/vmKernal and Service Consoles - each using 2 physical NICs (one channel).  Does this make sense for maximizing performance and redundancy?  Is there a better method?  Thanks!</p>
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